Pope kneels while charismatics speak in tongues around him
By Cindy Wooden Rome Meeting more than 50,000 Catholic charismatics in Rome's Olympic Stadium, Pope Francis admitted he was not always comfortable with the way they prayed, but he knelt onstage as they …More
By Cindy Wooden
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Meeting more than 50,000 Catholic charismatics in Rome's Olympic Stadium, Pope Francis admitted he was not always comfortable with the way they prayed, but he knelt onstage as they prayed for him and over him by singing and speaking in tongues.
"In the early years of the charismatic renewal in Buenos Aires, I did not have much love for charismatics," the pope said June 1. "I said of them: They seem like a samba school."
Little by little, though, he came to see how much good the movement was doing for Catholics and for the church, he told a gathering organized by the International Catholic Charismatic Renewal Services and the Catholic Fraternity of Charismatic Covenant Communities and Fellowships.
Pope Francis invited the crowd, which included charismatics from 55 countries, to come to St. Peter's Square for Pentecost in 2017 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the movement. The Catholic charismatic movement traces its origins to a retreat held in 1967 with students …More
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Meeting more than 50,000 Catholic charismatics in Rome's Olympic Stadium, Pope Francis admitted he was not always comfortable with the way they prayed, but he knelt onstage as they prayed for him and over him by singing and speaking in tongues.
"In the early years of the charismatic renewal in Buenos Aires, I did not have much love for charismatics," the pope said June 1. "I said of them: They seem like a samba school."
Little by little, though, he came to see how much good the movement was doing for Catholics and for the church, he told a gathering organized by the International Catholic Charismatic Renewal Services and the Catholic Fraternity of Charismatic Covenant Communities and Fellowships.
Pope Francis invited the crowd, which included charismatics from 55 countries, to come to St. Peter's Square for Pentecost in 2017 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the movement. The Catholic charismatic movement traces its origins to a retreat held in 1967 with students …More
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Prof. Wessell -Das war sehr gut gesagt. I have always thought of glossolalia as a modern form of Gnosticism. The claim of the speaker in unknown tongues is that of the Holy Spirit - a secret esoteric knowledge only accessible only to one who is baptized in the Spirit. Generally, those Christians who are non-Charismatic are generally not regarded as possessing the gift of interpretations and do not …More
Prof. Wessell -Das war sehr gut gesagt. I have always thought of glossolalia as a modern form of Gnosticism. The claim of the speaker in unknown tongues is that of the Holy Spirit - a secret esoteric knowledge only accessible only to one who is baptized in the Spirit. Generally, those Christians who are non-Charismatic are generally not regarded as possessing the gift of interpretations and do not have access to the mystically obscure knowledge. The danger is that it can become in some Catholic Charismatic circles an 8th sacrament or worse a substitute for Holy Communion.
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A priest once remarked , " Did you notice that ever since they removed the Latin, people started praying in tongues? People like to pray in languages they do not understand." 
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Would someone please explain to me what "speaking" in "tongues" means. If one "speaks", I expect the spoken to be open to linguistic analysis. Perhaps, one can trace the history of the pre-phase of the language spoken (e.g., Latin), the development of this phase (e.g., midieval French, Spanish, etc.) and the modern language of, say, Spanish. Because of the term "speech", I feel myself obligated to …More
Would someone please explain to me what "speaking" in "tongues" means. If one "speaks", I expect the spoken to be open to linguistic analysis. Perhaps, one can trace the history of the pre-phase of the language spoken (e.g., Latin), the development of this phase (e.g., midieval French, Spanish, etc.) and the modern language of, say, Spanish. Because of the term "speech", I feel myself obligated to interpret "tongues" as different languages, identifiable and linguistically open to analysis. Or, as I suspect, "tongues" entails the incoherent and emotionalized babblings of worked up humans in a group context. From this point of view "tongues" means the emotional overflow of sounds uttered by the charismatically possessed participants--a condition that frightens me as it represses the rational function of the mind into a dizzy whirl of corporeal agitation. The Pope's reference to such activity as "samba" is a metaphorical reference of some value, though an understatement. May I conclude that the whooping-it-up, delirious dancing of carnevalists in Rio (which I have seen) is charismatic? Or, at least, a proto-charismatic effusion needing "tongue"-exudings that somehow become a sort of liturgical expression, i.e., an "experience".
The Pope is shown appartently as praying fervently. Prayer, with clear cognitive content, is always a fine thing. Or, is the Pope, overcome by emotions, just emitting feelings and, naturally, in front of the whole-wide-world; in order words, acting out again the emotionality of a narcisstic ("Look at me, look at me!") cynosure? Maybe I am all wrong. If so, I would like to know just what languages were spoken and what was said in the fervernt heat of a charismatic seizure. I suspect it was all jibberish--which may have some religious value, but lacks liturgical dignity and threatens the partipant with loss of self-control in the heat of the group.
The Pope is shown appartently as praying fervently. Prayer, with clear cognitive content, is always a fine thing. Or, is the Pope, overcome by emotions, just emitting feelings and, naturally, in front of the whole-wide-world; in order words, acting out again the emotionality of a narcisstic ("Look at me, look at me!") cynosure? Maybe I am all wrong. If so, I would like to know just what languages were spoken and what was said in the fervernt heat of a charismatic seizure. I suspect it was all jibberish--which may have some religious value, but lacks liturgical dignity and threatens the partipant with loss of self-control in the heat of the group.