en.news

"Sorry We Didn’t Discuss the Liturgy" — A Complaint Cardinal Czerny Never Heard at the Consistory

Cardinal Michael Czerny, SJ, 79, said that during the consistory on 7-8 January, he did not hear anyone say, "Oh, I’m sorry we didn’t discuss the liturgy".

He told the Substack.com-account The Pillar on 13 January, that what Leo XIV will do with the Mass of the Roman Rite is "beyond my pay grade": "I can’t speculate about how he intends to approach the situation. But I can’t imagine a pope who wouldn’t want to bring peace to the Church. I think every pope since St Peter would want that," the cardinal speculated.

In general, he found the consistory a "healthy" exercise. "As soon as we got together and realised that the first thing we would do was spend the whole afternoon discussing it, we realised we were already at work. People immediately switched into gear. All three sessions were good."

"Not Possible Without Pope Francis"

When asked if the lack of collegiality among the cardinals wasn’t the elephant in the room under Francis, Cardinal Czerny denied it, saying: “No, quite the opposite. Everyone said, thought or felt that this could not have happened without Francis.”

Regarding the term 'synodality', Cardinal Czerny said that the Cardinals are closer to a common appreciation: “To appreciate doesn’t necessarily mean to be able to give the clearest of definitions.”

His "definition" of synodality is as follows: "If you just see it, you don't get it. You have to experience it."

Cardinal Czerny believes that the more synodal the Church is, the more it will evangelise.

Picture: Michael Czerny, © Mazur/catholicnews.org.uk CC BY-NC-ND, #newsKiqcawgiqi
6967

The Synods and the Consistory were based upon the irrational and not rational interpretation of Vatican Council II. This is major doctrinal error found also in the books of Fr. Karl Rahner.
17.01.2026
POPE LEO MUST NOT ALLOW THE IMPRIMATUR FOR NEW BOOKS ON VATICAN COUNCIL II INTERPRETED WITH THE FALSE PREMISE : RAHNER’S BOOKS MUST BE PULLED BACK

POPE LEO MUST NOT ALLOW THE IMPRIMATUR FOR NEW …

Scapular

The Pope and the majority of these Cardinals have lost the seriousness imposed by maintaining the Apostolic Faith.

foward

Just as the democracy of the French Revolution destroyed the monarchy, synodality seeks to destroy the structure of the Church.
As for the liturgy, it's understandable that they don't want to discuss it, since the traditional liturgy doesn't fit with modernist doctrine.

SonoftheChurch

“But I can’t imagine a pope who wouldn’t want to bring peace to the Church. I think every pope since St. Peter would want that.” Could such be said of Francis, Your Eminence?

Orthocat

Didn't Francis wistfully ponder whether he would "schism the Church"? He didn't seem too worried about it!

Orthocat

Very Jesuitical!