@chris griffin I never said you had to believe in Fatima. Show me where I did. I asked you to read this post by Saint Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort The … who died in 1716 - 201 years before Fatima even happened. The rest of your comments are just ad hominem attacks without explanation.
I think there are even more than twelve apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary that have been approved by the Church. The Church doesn't teach that we have to believe any of them. Nor does the Church teach that we have to honour (by specific acts of devotion) all the particular apparitions, daily or even occasionally.
It would be easy to say certain things to you publicly, that would possibly humiliate you, but I don't want to do that. I'd like to speak with you privately, through 'Chat' to prove that I am not just trying to score points off you. If you want to, you know where I am, through the 'Chat' facility. If you don't want to, fine. Incidentally - are you male or female? 'Chris' could mean Christopher or Christine and could have some relevance on my observations of your behaviour on GTV. I am male, by the way.

The following excerpt is from E Michael Jones booklet: 'The Man Behind the Curtain - Michael Voris and the Homosexual Vortex' (Fidelity Press, 2016) This was written 8 years ago - wake up and smell the coffee!

"The infallible sign that an “apostolate” has become a racket is the benefactor cruise. Church Militant TV was no exception to this rule. On April 2, 2016, Voris and his benefactors set sail on Church Militant’s fourth annual “retreat at sea,” a cruise along the coast of California which included “13 exclusive conferences given by Michael Voris” on topics like “Crisis in the Church” and “Purity” as well as daily Mass and Eucharistic adoration, all followed by meals prepared by the Ruby Princess chefs, who are “true culinary artists” who make each meal “an unforgettable gourmet experience.”

There was more than a little irony involved in the cruise. As Maureen Mullarkey later put it: “Your best hope is to pay up for his luxury Lenten cruise (“at the foot of the Cross” on the Ruby Princess), daiquiri in hand, and seagulls overhead.” Beyond the obvious cognitive dissonance which meditation on the Cross of Christ caused when linked to unforgettable gourmet meals, there was the added irony involved in the fact that Voris was a frequent habitué of gay cruises during his years as an active homosexual. The fact that Voris kept photo albums of those cruises, which included photos of his “marriage” ceremony to the man who made him HIV positive was some indication that he had more than a lingering attachment to his former life. The “retreat at sea” cruise was just one more indication that Voris was acting out a spiritual version of the same life he had lived as a homosexual.

There were other indications that he wanted to hold on to his past while still clinging to the belief that he was leading a new, more spiritual life. In addition to being narcissistic, Voris was obsessive/compulsive and had filing cabinets full of receipts from every gay spa and restaurant he had ever frequented, which indicated more attachment to his former life as well as the fact that he trivialized the degree of sin that he had been involved in. Voris’s homosexuality was not an isolated incident; it was a public commitment, as symbolized by his “marriage” ceremony at sea, that continued for years. The fact that he had broken with former sex partners was not a sign that he had broken with the past, but was simply typical of the homosexual scene, where relationships don’t last. You simply have sex and move on. Gay culture is completely narcissistic. Once a homosexual has sex, he has no more use for a sex partner; he cuts them off, and they are dead to him."

@mccallansteve Not necessarily the case. People can do serious research on the same subject and reach different conclusions. It also depends where you do your research. Going to one website (e.g. 'sisterlucytruth') is going to give a very one-sided view. Looking at a variety of source materials may give a wider picture. As for listening to the opinions of so-called 'experts' - hasn't anyone learnt from the dangers of taking their conclusions as Gospel truth - especially when they are being paid - like those 'experts' who told us to get covid-vaccinated? I researched that matter and decided against vaccination. Others took different advice from 'experts' and got mRNA vaccinated and now wish they hadn't.
There seems to be something odd going on here. If a Fatima Center priest confirms there was a fake Sister Lucia, then that contradicts what was written in their magazine: The Fatima Crusader (from the Fatima Center- Fr Gruner (RIP)'s organisation) devoted a whole issue to the controversy: Fatima Crusader Issue 132, Spring 2024. Unfortunately, it isn't online to read, but I'm sure it can be purchased from The Fatima Center | Promoting the Full Message of Fatima On page 24, it states "(3) We have multiple statements through 1989 from the real Sister Lucia, who continued to say things consistent with what she had said prior to 1960. Given the sequence of events surrounding Archbishop Bertone's interviews with Sister Lucia in 2000 and 2001, there is good reason to believe that the real Sister Lucia was still alive then". Her death was in 2005. I wrote a very long comment about this matter on another thread: New evidence in the case of the replacement of Sr.…
I don't even accept that there was a 'fake' Sister Lucia who was used for occasional purposes. If so, this would have involved the Coimbra Carmelite sisters in deceit and lying. No religious are obliged to sin if requested by a superior.

It's time governments reined in WEF unless it is already too late. Look at the sheer numbers involved worldwide:
As well as Klaus Schwab, the Chairman, there are 29 on the Board of Trustees, 7 on the Managing Board, 36 on the Executive Committee weforum.org/about/leadership-and-governance then there are 11,102 'Global Shapers' globalshapers.org and over 1,400 'Young Global Leaders' younggloballeaders.org and 'The Centre for the Fourth Industrial Revolution' with 300+ Policy and Governance Experts and 450+ Innovators and Technology Pioneers Centre for the Fourth Industrial Revolution (C4IR) - World Economic Forum also the 'New Champions Community' New Champions - Home and then the various 'partners' of WEF: (scroll down, and in the filter, click on PARTNERS.ALL and an A-Z comes up. All the partners are listed in alphabetical order. God help us. We need a new David to put an end to this Goliath.